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Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Mon Nov 24 10:09:51 2003 [10:10] Wilpig: hey dumbfuck, leave the NAT as-is at (Company removed). the software company specified that set of addresses to make their office in line with all the other office that they support. [10:10] Wilpig: I don't want to have to clean up any messes you make so just do the job you were sent to do in the first place. Session Close (Mike Snyder): Mon Nov 24 10:10:49 2003 Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Mon Nov 24 14:21:11 2003 [14:21] Mike Snyder: hey dumbfuck, I'm working with tim from (vender removed), he recommend a firewall with a 192.168.x.x address. btw, don't define what my job is. worry about getting your jobs done before you worry about what others are or aren't doing. [14:31] Wilpig: you fucking up there is gonna be my job [14:31] Wilpig: and (vender removed) originally set those IPs [14:31] Mike Snyder: ok. any business should run a firewall. it's not a fuck up. [14:33] Wilpig: IT HAS A FIREWALL YOU STUPID FUCK! [14:34] Mike Snyder: I saw a cable modem. [14:34] Wilpig: why don't you ipconfig something. then put the IP of the gateway into a browser and see what you get. [14:35] Mike Snyder: Will do. I don't claim to perfect. Session Close (Mike Snyder): Mon Nov 24 14:37:40 2003 Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Thu Nov 27 11:06:06 2003 [11:06] Mike Snyder: I had a thought. Not to mess up your thanksgiving. but does Bo = Buu ? You were watching those shows when Bo showed up. be something if a tv show affected you. anyway, no big deal. back to my crack pipe. [11:06] Wilpig: yeah hit that crack pipe mike, that is the only place you can get a crack pot theory like that Session Close (Mike Snyder): Thu Nov 27 11:06:58 2003 Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 11:38:38 2003 [11:39] Wilpig: You just can't do the right thing and admit when you are wrong can you? Nope I guess not. I just showed (customer removed) that you wasted their money and installed a second firewall. Session Close (Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 11:39:17 2003 Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 13:31:03 2003 [13:31] Mike Snyder: sounds like u have a axe to grind. one thing he just installed a $20K risc server, I doubt he cares about a $200 stateful firewall. So, in effect you just went out of your way to make both myself and yourself look bad over a $200 part. Good job. Good team player. BTW, the vpn functionality will come in handy for Chuck and (customer removed) later in the future. Who knows, maybe the will use broadband at his client sites in 2004 or 2005. So, by bad mouthing me in the present, you'll making yourself look bad in the future. In summary, what ever axe you got to grind, get done with it. If you're going to lead your company to success then do it. if you're going to follow someone else's lead to the future, then do it. Bad mouthing others, and blocking progress (what you call playing the corporate game) is a sure way fubaring your career and others around you. I hope I have made myself clear. [16:21] Wilpig: Hey dipshit. We are on opposite teams. YOU do not work for (my company). Had you taken the time to look instead of just flapping your fucking gums about something you would have done it right in the first place. For their next upgrade I will make sure they don't call you. In fact the last RISC upgrade they had I did. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. They will not be upgrading any of their stores to broadband because none of them need internet in the first place. I will continue to point out your laziness at every opportunity until you come back to reality and start using your brain for a change. Session Close (Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 16:22:43 2003 Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 21:35:35 2003 [21:35] Mike Snyder: I think you nailed it. You see us on opposite teams. I don't see it that way. What's good for Chuck is good for me. What's good for Chuck is good for you. We have a common goal. To be rich, old and fat. We don't have to like each other, but working together we can do much more than seperate. Either we play together nicely or we don't. I suggest we work together over the long term. BTW, I also think what's good for you is good for me. I'm funny like that. I seem to remember some state motto about this. [21:36] Wilpig: Mike not sure if you have noticed something or not, but you DON'T work for (my company). You work for RCS. That is a separate company and as such you are not acting in the best interest of me. You are acting in your best interest trying to gain some work for your old contacts at (my company) Session Close (Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 21:36:56 2003 Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 21:47:00 2003 [21:47] Mike Snyder: some truth there. But I don't see it as a deciding factor. squabbling over equiment should be used after the customer pulled me in as a consultant role is poor form. I play by the rules, and I play to win. That doesn't mean we are on opposite teams. In fact there's many scenarios where both (my company) and RCS do quite well. I'm happy with my role with RCS and don't seem that happy on a daily basis with (my company). Maybe I'm wrong. My point, is that neither one of us has to lose for the other to win. The world is a big place. [21:47] Mike Snyder: u don't seem [21:50] Wilpig: Mike if you were being a consultant you should have told the customer what they needed using your professional opinion. YOU did nothing of the sort you didn't look at what they had you just went on what you thought they had even after you were told otherwise. The only thing you want is to make money, until you got pulled in on (my company) projects again, you weren't making money. You can say all you want but you are in this to make money and that is it. You don't care what is right or wrong. Session Close (Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 21:57:42 2003 Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 22:05:05 2003 [22:05] Mike Snyder: Yes, Wilbur I like to eat. But that's getting better all the time. This is the second time you brought this up. I never got the feeling in the past you thought me unethical. site an example, a clear example. I'll concede that I'm a imperfect being. But overall I believe I do quite well. I do what I say. the most money I ever stole is a few dollars from the cash box so I could bar hop in paducah. I haven't killed anyone I know of. Felt bad about hitting that deer a while back. Haven't screwed anyone over in a business deal in years. Even if I had, that's allowed in our world. Haven't stole anyone's wife, but's also allowed in this world. Wilbur I don't see the behavior you're discribing. [22:06] Wilpig: They have a name for that mike, Self Delusion. Session Close (Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 22:06:34 2003 Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 22:23:16 2003 [22:23] Mike Snyder: Ok. I'll take self delusion if it helps me make it thru my life. Feel free to focus that power of clear sight on yourself. Make a list of your faults. Just for yourself. I would bet you would have very few on your list. I need to get back to studying. let me be short. I offer you my friendship and respect for you as a engineer, on the condition you respect my abilities and friendship. What happens with Chuck I have no way of foreseening in the future. He's a big boy, I believe he'll protect his interests. I'm much more worried about our friendship. [22:25] Wilpig: Abilities? Respect? Dictionary mike. IF you respected me or my abilities you would have taken my work that they had a firewall and dropped the subject then and there. Session Close (Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 22:25:22 2003 Session Start (4486703:Mike Snyder): Thu Dec 04 22:31:44 2003 [22:31] Mike Snyder: Firewall Network Security The Prestige 954 offers powerful and excellent performance firewall capability, including Stateful Packet Inspection and Denial of Service (DoS) to provide a network security solution. Stateful Packet Inspection firewall restricts access by screening data packets against defined access rules based on IP address and protocol, allows/blocks certain types of incoming and outgoing data. [22:32] Mike Snyder: u call that a firewall? [22:32] Wilpig: yes [22:32] Wilpig: and just where is your point? [22:34] Mike Snyder: well, I do too. unfortunely, they had a Prestige 944S Security User definable packet filter DOCSIS packet filter IP address filter TCP/UDP ports filter Multi-NAT firewall protection/SUA [22:34] Wilpig: and you know what. that is a firewall too mike [22:34] Wilpig: Why does someone need a stateful firewall? any ideas mike? what are they doing that requires one. NOTHING. what are they going to do that requires one, NOTHING! [22:35] Wilpig: so was a basic firewall that is using NAT to mask the internal network enough security for an office of 10 ppl. YES yes it was [22:35] Mike Snyder: the company sales it as a nat gateway, the 954 is the firewall of the product line. [22:38] Wilpig: you know why they will never be hosting anything in that building? with their current setup? because their TOS with (cable modem provider) forbids it. so the firewall that (cable modem provider) supplied them with was more than enough. can you not admit that? is that too hard for you [22:46] Mike Snyder: I already made my point. I get things wrong every day. this one wasn't even close. Why don't challenge me on something I'm not an expert on. Stateful was a correct choice here and you know it. I've never heard a customer say I wish I would have brough the cheaper firewall. speaking of admiting doing something wrong. lets hear that you admit u were wrong in bringing me in on the wireless deal last spring. [22:48] Wilpig: YOU STUPID ARROGENT FUCK! They had a firewall. PERIOD! Just because it could tell if a packet was meant for a destination inside or was initiated by a computer inside that doesn't fucking matter. and you know it you are just determined that you are right and that nobody else can challenge the all mighty WORTHLESS CCNP. [22:48] Wilpig: I have already said I regret ever saying for them to give you that wireless project you have proven over and over that you don't have a god damned clue what you are doing and just making things worse [22:51] Mike Snyder: regret isn't the same as being wrong. I want to hear it. Pulling me into that deal has changed both our lifes. I'm not sure it was a good thing either. but from your stated viewpoint is has to be one of your bigger mistakes. |